Welcome! I’m happy you’re here. You can call me Kate, one of many nicknames, or Kathryne, my full first name. Either way, I’m a self-taught cook from Oklahoma. I started this blog in 2010 and named it after my canine sidekick, Cookie. Now, I live in Kansas City with my husband and young daughter and work on this blog full-time. I love my job!
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You should know that I’m totally obsessed with food. I daydream about new recipes. I devour cookbooks (I even wrote my own). I read up on food policy and nutrition. I love photographing food and hope my photos inspire you to step into the kitchen to cook a delicious, healthy meal.
Above all, I love eating food, especially while in the presence of good company. Good food in good company—does it get any better than that?
I believe that cooking should be fun and recipes, flexible. I choose not to cook meat, so all of the recipes on Cookie and Kate are vegetarian. I believe in eating whole foods, which are as close to their source as possible. I’m also an avid supporter of the occasional indulgence, and I laugh with friends over drinks as often as possible.
This blog is all about celebrating good food—real, sustainable food that delights the senses and nourishes the body.

About Cookie
Cookie is a jaunty spotted mutt who makes friends everywhere she goes. She is my eager four-legged assistant, my chief crumb catcher and the best companion a girl could ask for.
I adopted Cookie in the summer of 2009. She came with her name and nothing more. Whether she was named for being one smart cookie or for looking like cookies and cream, the name suits her well.
After five years of referring to Cookie as a “mystery mutt,” I finally caved and ordered a DNA test. My beloved, one-of-a-kind pup is half schipperke and half dachshund/Australian koolie mix.
Cookie left this world in 2023 after thirteen incredible years together. I miss her dearly, and this website will remain Cookie and Kate in honor of our time together.
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My cookbook, Love Real Food, can be purchased online at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, BAM!, Bookshop.org, and Indigo. Digital editions of the book are available for purchase and download at iBooks and Amazon Kindle. Look for the book in your local bookstore or Barnes u0026 Noble. More book details here.
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I’m not a vegetarian. Probably never will be. But due to the influence of my wife and daughter, I certainly see the benefits (health, environment, humane treatment of animals) and therefore make a concerted effort to seek out vegetarian recipes. I have always said to my wife that I don’t have a problem eating a vegetarian meal if it’s delicious. But, I’m not willing to sacrifice taste. Your website has literally been my beacon for finding the most delicious vegetarian meals. Everything I have tried on your site has become a regular in our rotation. It’s the only cooking website that I have bookmarked and the only one that I recommend to friends. So, thanks for what you do.
I’m glad you have been able to enjoy my recipes, Steve!
Hey Kate – that’s how my name is spelled too! Don’t see it very often w the e on the end. I have been a vegetarian for over 40 years. It’s the best at least for me. Love my cheese tho so cannot do the vegan thing. A little over ‘indulgence’ on occasion is important! Keep up sharing your healthy recipes
thank you for all the delicious recipes on your site.
I really enjoy Mediterranean dishes and your versions
are the best I’ve had the pleasure of trying. I’ve also recommended
you to all my friends
Hey, this is the only place where i have several recipes in rotation, I’m usually tremendously disappointed when i follow a recipe online. I always have quick pickled onions in the fridge, the enchilada sauce is another favorite. As a meatlover i sometimes add meat, but just as often i opt out and both work.
The only thing I’m missing is metric measurements!
I’m so happy to hear you are loving my recipes! Thank you for sharing, Vivian. I appreciate your feedback, maybe sometime in the future, but I can’t make promises.
I concur, Steve. Well said! The only thing I could add is that the website and photos are beautiful and helpful. I love everything about this website! Thank you, Kate, for working so hard to bring us healthful and delicious recipes!
I want to make your Lentil Soup, but, due to health reasons, I want to see the nutritional values, but can’t locate. Please advise. (Note: I have Liver Fibrosis and can have only a certain amount of sodium and fat daily, thus my reason for attempting to locate the nutritional values, plus I am suppose to eat lentils every day if at all possible. I have been searching for a good, healthy Lentil Soup for 2 years and yours sound nutritional and tasty. I will add protein, i.e., chicken, as I also have to consume between 60 and 80 g. of protein daily. I cannot consume red meat, but can have all the fish and chicken I want as long as it’s not fried. Very difficult to cook these days. Please let me know how to locate the nutritional values of the soup. It sounds so good! Thank you. Celina
Hi Celina, you should be able to see the nutritional information by clicking to expand below the notes on the header. If you are having issues, try clearing your cache. I hope this helps!
Hi Celina,
Throughout my health journey, I have consulted several vegetarian nutritionists and biochemists who agree on findings of protein and how this is far more available when created in your gut (i.e. leafy greens), rather than consumed (i.e. chicken). I’m in California where kale is available fresh and organic so I stuff my face in it. I can only it’s sad how difficult it has become these days to share our success on a diet if we’re not doctors or nutritionists. I’m an architect, life-long athlete, and lived in San Francisco for 6 years where I was able to indulge in fresh food knowledge. My point is, I used to have several diet-related health issues and the more I cut out food with hormones, the better I got. Listen to your gut, all the best!
Hi Kate – I am a part time vegetarian and my daughter is vegan. She recently had a baby so I’ve been cooking meals for her about once a week. I love that your recipes are so adaptable, and as has been said many times, they are always delicious!! I just made your Whole Wheat Blueberry muffins (regular and vegan) and they came out great both times! Thank you!!
Celina, it’s also extremely close to the recipe for Curried Lentil Soup by America’s Test Kitchen. They have precise nutritional info on their recipe if you want extra insights or validation.
Agreed, Steve! I have never been let down by a recipe on cookie & kate!
Thank you, Sonya!
Good job Kate.
So happy I bought your book. This summer I plan on trying all of your salads. I just read the update on cookie and I wish her well wishes and prayers.❤️
I’m not a vegetarian either, Steve. My brother introduced me to C&K because he’s an excellent chef and my sister-in-law is a vegetarian. EVERY SINGLE RECIPE I’ve tried on this website for years now is absolutely phenomenal. It’s my go-to source for almost everything I make now. I’ve shared C&K with dozens & dozens of non-vegetarian friends who always ask for the recipes after dining at our house, thus creating even more C&K devotees! Thank you immensely, Kate – & belly rubs to Cookie.
I forgot to add, the frittata was as good as anything I had in Spain
I am a closet keto man, not all vegan recipes are keto friendly, can you help me find the vegan recipes that fit my Keto challenge?
Hi Kate,
I have your book and just love your recipes. I became vegetarian a year ago for the same reasons you describe in your book. With your recipes and those you post, I am eating very well! And love in your book that you alert us all to what dogs shouldn’t eat!! My 11 year old Boston Terrier is enjoying nibbles from the dog friendly recipes you have! I recall reading awhile back that you had a health scare with Cookie. She is just adorable!! I was wondering how she is doing?
Hi Karin! I’m delighted you are enjoying both my book and blog. I appreciate your support! Cookie still seems to be handling treatment well and hoping for the best.
Hi , I’m Nikita but please call me Alex, ( I like it way more )
My mom is obsessed with your cookie recipes. Now that she is gone to India, I really miss those cookies. Luckily my dad has promised to make some with me . Also… I love dogs so when my mom told me about this website I kept loooking at recipes and asking my mom to make them .
I’m 10 by the way . Other people , pls don’t hack me!!!
Hi Kate,
Just leaving you a comment to let you know this is my favorite food blog, hands down! It is uncanny-it seems like every time I’m the mood for a specific food or want to use some ingredients I have, one of your recipes comes up. I think I might have identical taste in food! Anyways I also used to live in OKC and I worked at med imports so one day I was craving their bean salad and looking up a recipe and of course yours came up with a shoutout to med imports! Anyways keep up all the good work-I finally ordered your cookbook today and look forward to using it!
You’re so kind, Carol! Thank you for sharing. It’s wonderful to know you can trust the recipes and content. I do spend a lot of time on them! :)
I just wanted to thank you for all the work you do on this terrific blog. Your recipes have inspired me to cook more for myself and explore more wholesome ingredients, and I have enjoyed every bite (my dog Poppy enjoys the occasional bite, too). I’m also in Kansas City, so I love all the references to this great town and its awesome food! Thanks again for all you do!
Thank you, Paige! I’m happy to hear that.
Hi Cookie and Kate! I LOVE your recipes and have followed you for years! You’re always my first stop when searching for recipes and lately I’ve been looking for a good butternut squash lasagna…. Would you consider adding that?? Thank you!!
Erica
Thank you, Erica! I appreciate your review.
Thank you!!! for the pecan butter recipe. Never did I ever conceive that pecans would make an exceptional delicious nut butter – better than almond butter. Pecan granola bars are setting in the fridge – can’t wait to try them.
That does sound good. I’m born and bred in Missouri and love pecans!
Hi Kate, this has been said before, but yours is my favorite food blog hands down! I’ve been vegetarian for 4 years and I haven’t been able to find any other recipes that come close to beating yours. I especially appreciate how you make a point to include seasonal ingredients in your posts. Thank you for the good eats!
Thank you so much, Jackie! I do truly appreciate it. :)
Every single time I use one of your recipes it comes out amazing! Thank you!!! Absolutely love all of your cookies and am now a pro at flax eggs and use them all the time thanks to you!! X
I’m happy to hear that Hilary! Thank you for your review.
Looking forward to checking out your cook book! Just found your blog.
Hi. Is your oven temp for fan forced or conventional?
Hi! It’s conventional.
I always assumed that Cookie and Kate were two cooks. Now I know who Cookie is. She is absolutely adorable and definitely plays an important role in your food blog!!
Thank you, Janice! She is pretty special.
You are a genius. I never comment online, but I’ve gotten so much joy out of your recipes over the years that my debt of gratitude is way overdue. I LOVE your ideas and techniques! Thank you so much for sharing. Your introductions are always delightful to read too.
You’re very kind, Emily! Thank you for your comment.
hi kate, i would lv to save many of your recipes. i am unable to see how that is possible. where is save located. i see saved at top of page but it did not save the recipe.
Hi Sharron! Thank you for your comment. If you go to the bottom of the post, in the recipe itself an option to save there. It’s in the header with the ingredients. I hope this helps!
Hi Sharron,
I love all of Kate’s recipes too and finally bought her cookbook. Like you I wanted to save many of them for quick reference since they aren’t all in her cookbook. So I paid $5 for a recipe app called Paprika 3. Took me an hour to use it enough to make it useful, but it’s fabulous! You can save recipes by category (salad,vegan,appetizer, etc). I now have 100’s of recipes in it. Once I actually make one, I rate it to know if I want to make it again. I can double or halve the recipe with one keystroke. I can makes notes on things I change or substitute. Good luck!
Legit recipe. I’m an omnivore but made this blindly and untested for my veg sister and her family. They said they loved it, and my niece had seconds! I love it when a recipe actually works out great… looking forward to exploring more of your recipes!! Thank you!! (Hi Jess!!)
I stumbled upon your website awhile back and I am so glad I did! I was in search of a butternut squash soup recipe and I found yours. It was SO good and so easy to make! I am always trying to find recipes that are simple, delicious, and use real ingredients. I bought your cookbook a couple months ago and have tried so many of the recipes already! I loved your cookbook so much I bought my best friend one as well. We often text each other about recipes we’ve tried and we have yet to be disappointed. I typically don’t comment, but I had to say thank you!!
I’m happy you did as well, Meagan! Thank you for taking the time to review. Always be sure to rate the recipes as you try them, it really does help!
Hi friend,
Though I’m not vegan personally, I am a fellow imaginer of food, and a few times when I rattled off ideas to google your website came up with a striking parallel. As a kindred spirit of sorts, I just wanted to say hello.
Hi Kate! Some of my friends have started making their own healthy dog food. Have you tried this? Do you have any canine cooking tips? What does Cookie like to eat?
Hi Barbara, sorry to disappoint but I don’t!
Hi Kate,
So, I was looking for ratatouille recipes and stumbled upon yours. It was so incredibly delicious!!! I’d had ratatouille once years ago and really enjoyed it and hadn’t had it since, but I’ve recently gone vegan and wanted something healthy and yummy. This was such a feast of flavor no wonder your husband enjoyed it more than any ratatouille he had in France! Thank you!!!
I’m happy you loved it! Be sure to leave a star review since you loved it. Thank you for taking the time to comment, Laurie!
We so enjoy your recipes, thank you. Now we planned to go out for the first time to celebrate a birthday but it is going to be too chilly to fully enjoy it. So now i need ideas for a fancy healthy dinner. What do you suggest?
Hi Lisa, sounds like you have much to celebrate! Hooray! How about an oven-baked risotto with a big green salad? I love my mushroom or butternut risottos and would pair them with a big Italian chopped salad. Lasagna would be great, too!
Hi Kate….and Cookie
Just to say I love receiving your emails and the recipes within
I’ve been a veggie for 30 + years ….love the ideas you come up with….and Kansas…that sounds a cool place to live wow….there was a band from the States called Kansas…I guess they were from your state…not sure if they’re still together
Colin h
Derbyshire..England
Kate, will you ever publish another cookbook? Yours is my favorite one!
Thank you, Katie! I’m happy you loved it. I don’t have one in the works currently.
Your site is on my iPhone homescreen so I can jump right to it. Always find good stuff here.
Hi Kate! I just want to leave a comment and say thank you for all the excellent recipes you post here– I’ve consulted your site so many times when trying to create veggie-forward dishes that everyone (not just vegetarians) will love, and your recipes always hit the spot! Thanks for all you do! :)
You’re so kind, Calise! I’m delighted you have enjoyed my recipes and keep coming back.
Every time I want to make a new dish I check to see if you have a related recipe and try that first. Every one I’ve tried has been fantastic! Thank you so much for this wonderful page! Your lentil soup has taken first place on my favorite meals to make and I do so, all the time, all year round lol.
Thank you, Heidi! I’m happy to hear that.
Hi Kate!!
I stumbled across your blog in an attempt to search for Vegan recipes. I’m a Vegetarian of 26 years seeking to finally transition to becoming Vegan, in order to reap the benefits of a fully plant-based diet. I really love your content and photos. Your site will definitely become a frequent spot for me. I’m also looking into purchasing your cookbook. Thank you for your awesome work!!
P.S. I am originally from Kansas City – Born and raised! I now live in Nashville. :) Enjoy my hometown for me.
AJ
Hi AJ, Nashville is such a fun place, I hope you are enjoying it! I hope you love my cookbook. Thank you for your kind words!
Kate,
My wife and I have recently overhauled our diet in an effort to lose weight and improve our health. It probably goes without saying that a huge step in the right direction includes tipping the scales significantly towards a plant based diet. Echoing a previous commenter, it’s doubtful that my wife and I will ever abandon all meat. However, replacing old, tired recipes with healthy new foods and flavors has been instrumental in our journey.
I was running through a bunch of bookmarked recipes I had recently found, trying to decide what to cook next when I realized that the majority of that list were YOUR recipes. They’re all so flavorful, so vibrant and I know from experience that they’re reliable. Thank you for sharing what you do – it has certainly inspired us to eat healthier – so much so, that I just ordered your book.
Tomorrow’s Menu:
Tandori chicken (not one of yours, but should compliment)
C+K Crispy falafel
C+K Mujadara
C+K Favorite Quinoa Salad
Yes, we like leftovers thank you for all you do!
I’m glad you have a menus planned with lots of my recipes!
Hi Kate,
I am the most enthusiastic cook but often have disastrous results. I’m planning a veggie dinner party for my Book Club and tried out your aubergine lasagne (from your cook book) as a practice run. It’s so utterly delicious I actually can’t believe I made it! Thank you so much!
Would I be able to make this the day before but not bake it and then just put it in the oven to bake before the dinner party?
Hi Katie, I’m happy you are loving my cookbook! Unfortunately, I don’t recommend too long for it to sit in the refrigerator unbaked as I find it releases water and you don’t get as good of result. But, let me know if you try it and have a difference experience!
Hi Kate!
I recently discovered your blog and I absolutely love it. It is helping me eat more vegetables and I have learned a lot about cooking! When I choose a cookie and kate recipe to serve to friends they are always impressed. Thanks for providing all of these great resources!
Thank you for sharing, Colette! I’m happy you come to the blog for delicious food and share it with your friends.
Hello Kate
Your recipes are my go to! I eat a WFPB diet with the men in my house all meat eaters (hubby and two sons). I refer to your recipes all the time as I find them easy to tweak to suite us all and of course super delicious! We are Australian, but are based in the highlands of Papua New Guinea for my husbands work so your recipes are being cooked all the way over here. Thank you for all the hard work you put into your recipes, photography and social media.
Kind Regards
Brook
I’ve been using your recipes for about 2 years, and I enjoy everyone I’ve tried, I have your cookbook. Do you have any recipes that use Agave as the sweetener, I’m avoiding sugar and artificial sweeteners.
Thank you for all your work and keep cooking.
Hi Ann! Thank you for purchasing my book. I’m excited you loved it. Sorry to disappoint, but I don’t have any.
I LOVE YOUR COOKBOOK ❤❤❤ I am type2 diabetic always looking for healthy new recipes and I believe I have struck Gold with your book!! Thank you Cookie + Kate from the bottom of my heart !!!❤❤ excited to start cooking healthy !!! ❤
I’m so delighted you are enjoying my cookbook, Sheila! I appreciate you taking the time to share.
I was guessing, ” Aussie;” Kate greatly resembles the Blue Healer cattle dog; muscular chest, strong as an ox and a personailty just as big. They need to be paired with a self secure kind hearted human like you or like the lovely Staffordshire they can be swayed to become afraid, defensive, and thus aggressive. cheers…
Hello from Wales, I am great fan of yours and ‘Love real food’ is one of my best used cook books.
I would love it if you took pity on we British and gave your ingredients buy weight as well as cups. 3 cups of mashed banana (for healthy muffins) sees me mashing them and pressing them into my cup measurer three times. SO much easier just to weigh them!
Warm regards Charlotte and Peanut
Hi Charlotte, Thank you for your comment and so excited you have my cookbook. I appreciate your feedback. I try to provide weights when I can, but isn’t always a perfect conversion.
bababooey! love the toasty!
Hi Kate,
Love your recipes – always my top choice when I google a dish and see that you’ve written one.
Cookie is also very cute, I saw in a comment that she’s having treatment – hope all okay!
Thanks,
Tom
Hi Kate
Your Kale Pesto recipe has been a discovery I stumbled on a year ago. I have lost count of the number of times I made it for dinner. its an absolute hit with my 3 year old , who would have thought ! I have had my friends love it too and ask for the recipe. thank you for making kale interesting . love your blog and recipes
I love that! Thank you for sharing and glad you find the blog as a resource.
Thank you so much for doing your foodie healthy thing! I love your stuff, all of it. I have your book and look at your website all the time, and literally every recipe we’ve tried is a hit. Whether I want to impress and celebrate, or make something fast, you come up with what I need every time! The recipes are so adaptable. I put all your dressings on different salads now. I tell all my friends and family who want to make more healthy meals about your book and Instagram. Thanks so much for all the healthy, tasty, fun, and easy meals you have introduced to my family!
I found your granola recipe a few years ago and it has ruined me for any other granola. I even make batches to take with me when I travel! Just tried your mayo-free potato salad. Yum! So fresh and light. And I bought your cookbook, which provides great weeknight inspiration. Thank you thank you thank you! Keep those recipes coming!
I’m allergic to dairy and my husband is allergic to eggs, so I am always looking recipes everyone in my family can eat – and will enjoy. I usually start with an idea of what I want to make and then go searching online for a vegan version, or one I can substitute with non-dairy/non-egg products. I’m always happy when your recipe is on the search results page because I know we’ll enjoy it. Several of our favorite, go-to recipes are yours: mango salsa, butternut squash pasta and minestrone. Thank you for doing what you do and for sharing your gift with all of us!
Your recipes are simple and crazy yummy! Generally, I search the interwebs by ingredient or a particular dish and then select a recipe based on ratings and overall process. However, I realized today that for the past year, anytime you come up in the search results, I always pick your recipe. Our oldest daughter follows a plant-based diet, my husband is follows a “mostly plant-based” diet and the other three of us are not yet willing to give up eating meat, but are making an effort to become “mostly plant-based.” Your recipes make it EASY to choose plant-based meals that everyone will devour. Thank you for following your passion!!
Thank you, Heather! I’m glad you have found my recipes and are enjoying them.
Started with your black bean enchilada recipe. It became a regular go to recipe, though never the same 2 times in a row.
Just tried the baba-ganoush. Not quite there yet… has promise as a change from hummus.
Also tonight, made a veggie lasagne with slices of butternut squash instead of pasta. Similar idea as your enchiladas, so you deserve some credit for the dish.
Cookie and Kate, you make me smile! Happened to find you while searching for “best enchilada sauce” – your truly IS, by combining both a rue and tomato paste (GF flour works well). Navigated my way to the spinach-artichoke enchiladas, going to make them tonight. Love Cookie and your fun, healthy approach. We have our own beloved mutt (red hound/boxer/lab/etc etc) and enjoy adding vegetarian dishes to our menus!
Thank you! I’m happy you enjoyed the enchiladas.
I’m here for Cookie. Ok, I love all your recipes I’ve tried. Your my go to for new vegetarian recipes. Ok must confess. I really am here for cookie. She looked Austrian to me. My dogs attended Agility with some Aussies. Joli
Read your update in the e-mail. All the best for everything that is going on in your life. And for everything that is headed in the right direction slowly, prayers and wishes your way. Surbhi.
Thank you, Surbhi!
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Widowed and helpless in the kitchen, I nevertheless started a garden this year and just harvested quite a few tomatoes. I googled for a tomato salad recipe and found yours. I haven’t made the salad yet but I’m sure it will be delicious.
What struck me was that adorable pic of your companion “Cookie”. I too have a great friend and companion, a rescue named Draco. So this comment isn’t so much about food as it is a shout out to our lovable canine friends.
Thank you, Arno! Dogs are great friends.
I’ve often ended up on your website for vegetarian recipes when I can’t figure out what to make. But I finally got around the buying your cookbook. Planning to try to cook through it for the rest of the year. Thanks for creating great recipes that are easy to follow – and don’t sacrifice flavor!
Thank you for buying my cookbook! I hope you love it, Devin.
I lost my 12 year old Great Pyrenees February 24th 2021.
The coldest winter we have ever had in Texas.
There’s not a day that goes by that at least one tear drops from my eye when I think about him.
I love to cook , And he loved to eat !.
And I’m so thankful I found your recipe blog.
It helps me clear my mind.
And needless to say , Your recipes are always fantastic !
The compassion that you have for cooking, as well as the love you have for your adorable companion brings me a level of happiness that is beyond words.
Thank you Kate !
I was reading your recipe for Creamy Roasted Carrot Soup and you mentioned experimenting with using water as a broth alternative. I struggle when eating foods with additives, and am super excited to hear your results! Do you add any extra seasonings when using only water?
Hi Ashley! Follow the recipe as directed. You may adjust the salt to taste, but I think it’s delicious. Let me know what you think!
Hi Kate. Love your veggie lasagna. I’m Italian and outside of the ricotta that I love, yours is pretty close to delicious Italian! Can’t beat olive oil, garlic, any veggies, and besides sticking to ricotta and adding some Romano cheese too, all because of being Italian it’s very good. Your Cookie is adorable and I knew she had Australian collie in her somewhere. I too have rescued several collie, ranch dogs and they are very smart, special. I hope she is with you many more years. Thank you for the delicious recipes. We are cutting down on meat and your recipe is a keeper. Much love.
If you were able to track those who use your blog and recipes, you’d probably think I’m stalking you. Your site is THE go-to for me for creative and practical ideas and solutions. So thank you! A job (continually) well done! And, Cookie’s kind of cute.
What a great looking old girl.
My question is do you have her on a vegan diet too?
I am not trolling, I am a retired chef with around 40 years experience, twenty or so in the trenches but also someone that adopts, fosters and shares his life with animals.
For my guys and girls getting older and prone to joint issues I have a developed treat I’d love to share.
Point is it isn’t vegan so I wanted to ask first.
Kindest regards,
Chef (retired) Malcolm Banton
J&W ’00
Hey Malcolm, Just couldn’t resist correcting something here (hope you don’t mind- I do it all the time (I SHOULD’ve become an editor, not my chosen career..); Kate is actually NOT VEGAN, she’s a VEGETARIAN, so her cooking /diet includes dairy products, maybe some fish, definitely eggs…So many people think that these terms mean the same thing but they’re different. Vegans, whom I admire but I just don’t think I could manage meals without cheese or butter, or yogurt, are way more ‘take no prisoners’ about their food choices than us vegetarians. Just FYI.